Ditto what ptt said.
keyser soze
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What laws are on your side (in the U.S.) so you can leave quietly
by oppostate inin another topic "just quit quietly - the law is on your side" there was a lot of discussion about how to leave quietly without getting tagged publicly as "no longer a jw".
here are some legal cases that could be used to show support for leaving quietly.. you have to first send a letter saying you're leaving that specific congregation, and that you don't want them to keep records of you.. if the boe says anything against you here are some court cases that make precedent for bringing a suit against them:.
baugh v. thomas (1970).
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Can anyone tell me any narrative of having successfully avoided Baptism while being raised JW?
by SonoftheTrinity ini just worry for my stepkids about their future that way..
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keyser soze
I managed to avoid getting baptized until I was 19. Had I been able to put it off a couple more years, when my doubts started to surface, I probably would have avoided it altogether. Unfortunately, there was an aggressive, utrazealous elder in my congregation who wouldn't let that happen.
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Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?
by CrytoJesus inchristians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.
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i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .
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keyser soze
Just curious. Why do you imply having a belief in Jesus is flawed as well as the Witnesses' beliefs? I'm sorta in the middle between Atheism and Christianity. Haven't really decided which of the two is right.
The implication is that the entire bible is bogus, not just the JWs interpretation of it. What's also bogus is anyone's claims to "know the real Jesus".
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Wives who complain about their husbands work schedule but refuse to get a job
by hoser ini listen to one of these all time in our hall.
she brings it up constantly about how they would do this or that but he has to work that saturday.
i think she should get a job and then he could find a lower paying 9 to 5 job..
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keyser soze
We had a CO back in the 80's who used to make married sisters who held jobs feel guilty for working. He always said that they didn't trust in Jehovah enough to provide. Never mind the fact that my mom working enabled our family to get off government assistance.
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Should I attend Kingdom Hall meetings to discreetly "preach"?
by CrytoJesus inchristians, should i attend kingdom hall meetings to discreetly "preach" to jws about the real jesus and the lies of the watchtower?.
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i plan to go undercover and plant seeds into them.. .
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keyser soze
Yes. By all means, replace one fundamentally flawed belief system with your own.
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About the ten plagues in Egypt
by runForever inalot of people are saying god is cruel for killing the firstborns and animals and people in the ten plagues.
but didn't god achieve his goal of making nations and people be in fear of him?.
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keyser soze
Why does a perfect God, who has the mental ability to create the universe and everything in it, need for us to live in fear of him, kill our first born child, etc?
Because in spite of his omnipotence, he's still incredibly insecure.
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Jesus to run for record 26th term in office !
by Simon insources within heaven have revealed to us that jesus h christ intends to run for what would become his 26th term in office as ruler of the galaxy.. since his first term began in 1914 he's been unopposed in office despite, many say, failing to deliver on any of his pre-election promises.
they point to promises of "an end to death and eternal life for all" as being unrealistic given the funding given to healthcare as just one of many examples.. critics say the elections themselves are rigged and in fact no one even gets to case a vote because his father simply declares him the winner.
they believe that have proof that this was planned for some time in what many are calling "biblegate" and point to basic un standardsfor democracy which haven't been lived up to.. many of his supporters thought that his 16th term beginning in 1975 would define his rulership but they lost faith when his party later blamed them for having "unrealistic expectations".. "i did originally support him", says one man who didn't want to be identified for fear of reprisals, "but i'm starting to grow old and now think i'll die without ever seeing any of the changes his promised to enact".. we tried to contact the heaven party to ask when he planned to do any of the things he promised.
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keyser soze
This is why I believe in term limits.
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We Are A "Vast Army"
by mrquik ini know many have suffered to varying degrees at the hands of this cult.
one of the first casualties is our self- esteem.
our awakening takes us all on different paths.
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keyser soze
Well, Old Man Jaracz was pretty paranoid about a "Vast Apostate Army" poised to strike at the heart of the Org.
Well that's one thing they got right. Once in 140 years isn't bad, I guess.
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does the wt always carefully phrase sentences so as to never take blame?
by sowhatnow inim recalling a time when i sat and circled words in a watchtower article, indicating strongly the fact that it is in fact the writters opinion.. however just the suggestion in the sentence these words are ignored.. for example.
it is our understanding.
we believe this to be the case.
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keyser soze
I think that it's a skill they've been forced to finetune over the years due to one prophetic failure after another.
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What Was Your Body of Elders Like?
by minimus inwere they pretty much a good group of men?
we're they jerks?.
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keyser soze
We had a few that were decent enough guys. But they were eventually phased out by a CO who was a total company man. He did some "housecleaning" in our circuit.